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Fuel Changes in the GB and Northern Ireland.

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:48 pm
by englishstiv
Hi folks long time no speak :fart:

Us folk in the UK ( England, N Ireland, Wales and Scotland are now playing with E10 Graded Fuel ( 10% Ethanol) in our Petrol and I was wondering how this works with you folk around the world as I know quite a few of you have been using it Nationally for a few years,

Does anyone use it or do you still play with pre leaded stuff or thrown in additives etc.

I see Ducati say most bikes from the mid 2000's are okay to run on the stuff without issue. ( Unless you are leaving it in storage for any length of time etc)

So just wondering? :thumbup:

Re: Fuel Changes in the GB and Northern Ireland.

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:23 am
by Stepaso
Hi, I run a White 1988 750 LTD in New Zealand, here we have a fuel company that imports from Singapore & the big four BP, Caltex, Shell & Mobil they are all owners in a refinery, in reality are all just retailing the same product.
The independent company Gull that imports from Singapore has ethanol in it.

I understand what made the Paso LTD different from the not LTD's is 50 of them were made with fast cams and high compression pistons, this was done to qualify them to be production bikes so someone in America could race them.

Putting the non ethanol 98Octane from the big for companies makes my Paso run like shit, it won't idle, it coughs and burps and stutters up at about 5K, flush it out and put 98 Octane from Gull (with ethanol) and it instantly settles down to a good idle and it purrs like a kitten, and pulls strongly all the way to the red line.
The difference is amazing and makes the kind of gas that goes into my bike the most important thing when out cruising ...

Re: Fuel Changes in the GB and Northern Ireland.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:43 am
by *MB
Personally I stay well away from any ethanol blend. Confusion from the masses continues to surround octane values... In simple terms the higher the octane rating the more compression it resist before detonation. Whilst some argue it burns cleaner, unless you have increased your compression ratio from standard you gain very little other than emptying your wallet...
Far more important is understanding that petrol has a higher calorific (energy) value than ethanol. Simply put ethanol has ~70 percent the energy compared to 91 octane petrol. Changing from petrol to E10 (petrol with 10 percent ethanol) means you lose ~3% of the energy content. If your looking for maximum bang for buck ditch the ethanol and run 95 petrol... Just my two cents worth in any case...

Cheers,

Marc

Re: Fuel Changes in the GB and Northern Ireland.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:13 pm
by Mirinn
we ride motorcycles on 100 octane petrol, it has the smallest share of ethanol 0 - 5%