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Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:53 pm
by Tamburinifan
I plan to work on the mapping.
How?
Hex & burning?

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:07 pm
by higgy
How?
Hex & burning?
Most likely. I have about a half dozen maps to try at present so just chip swapping to start. Want to see whats been done already then go from there. I'll do the checking on the dyno with the LM-2 to save some time then do some on road verification .
I also have four exhaust systems to test for the 907,Staintune, F1, Stock and My modded stock,Oh almost forgot and the Rennsports off the 906. Oh, just so G can be happy,I might even put the Weber on it just for giggles and to prove a point. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :truck: :truck:

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:15 pm
by samandkimberly
907pasonut wrote:Didn't some ducati rider kill themselves because the cast iron rotor or rotors shattered? :huh:
You might be thinking of Jimmy Adamo here in the US - died in a crash caused by a shattered *carbon* rotor, back when the technology was rather new.

Sam

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:39 am
by samandkimberly
907pasonut wrote:...and to fit carbs on a 907 its a major job, and would take ages...
It's not that hard. At it's simplest:

buy a set of 900 SS intake manifolds off of ebay
buy a Mikuni vacuum fuel pump off of ebay
buy a Keihin FCR carb kit for 900SS (includes cables, twist grip, etc.)
buy some pod air filters

Rip out everything under the tank, including the fuel pump, and put the new stuff in. Plumb the vacuum fuel pump off of one of the vacuum ports, pulling fuel from the tank and pushing via tees past the carbs and back up into the tank as in the original fuel loop. Bingo, you have more space under the tank, and a better running system for a day's work and $1,250.00 or so. sell the old parts and you're out less than ~1,000.00.

More than I want to spend, but easily doable with basic tools and skills.


Sam

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:03 am
by 907pasonut
my motto is...if it aint broken dont fix it...I dont know much about superbikes, but didnt ducati won a few world championship titles on their 888 in the early 90s...surely they must of had a p7 or p8 FI system and not carbs! I might be wrong and if so someone correct me, but if that is the case...I rest my case :beer: :beer:

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:12 am
by persempre907
907pasonut wrote:my motto is...if it aint broken dont fix it...
My friend mechanic always tells me the same... when I have some fun idea...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ciao

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:29 am
by samandkimberly
I agree. The only reason I'd change the EFI system is to learn. Other than a cold start hiccup or ten it's fine by me.

The enemy of good is better.

Sam

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:04 pm
by 907pasonut
samandkimberly wrote:
The enemy of good is better.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :lol: :lol:

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:01 pm
by paso750
yeah, ... and after tight comes loose :)

G.

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:06 pm
by higgy
I dont know much about superbikes, but didnt ducati won a few world championship titles on their 888 in the early 90s
The first injected racing Ducati,I believe was the 4 valve 851 in 1985

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:03 pm
by angelix
higgy wrote:
I dont know much about superbikes, but didnt ducati won a few world championship titles on their 888 in the early 90s
The first injected racing Ducati,I believe was the 4 valve 851 in 1985
I it was a little later, in january 1986 Ducati started testing and the first appeareance was in Septemper 1986 at the "Bol D'or 24" with a 748cc LC 4V Fuel injected with a Marelli EFI.

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:21 am
by 907pasonut
paso750 wrote:yeah, ... and after tight comes loose :)

G.
:lol: :lol:...the crankshaft oil plug... :evil: :evil:

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:47 pm
by samandkimberly
Here's another relevant quotable quote:

"Make the suspension adjustable and they will adjust it wrong ......
look what they can do to a carburetor in just a few moments of stupidity with a screwdriver." -

Colin Chapman, F1 designer, and founder of Lotus, speaking of his customers

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:54 pm
by Tamburinifan
:lol: :lol: :thumbup:

I`m one of those idiots....

Re: Carb convert.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:54 pm
by persempre907
That's because I haver never tried to adjust both suspensions and carburettors :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Ciao