Dunlop D250 180/60R 16 fitted

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Re: Dunlop D250 180/60R 16 fitted

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paso750 wrote:
Beside the combinations of two tires that are made for very different kind of bikes (however there is not better option)
?! The Avons are a matching pair.
Has anyone broken an output shaft?
I doubt that will happen. What could happen though is that the output shaft seal fails and starts leaking some oil.

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I have heard ( no personal experiance ) that an over tightened chain will eventually ruin the berring, but I have never heard of a shaft being damaged
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Re: Dunlop D250 180/60R 16 fitted

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I have heard ( no personal experiance ) that an over tightened chain will eventually ruin the berring, but I have never heard of a shaft being damaged
There is an example, w pics, at the ms Monster forum,
where an overtightened chain led to a cracked engine case.
So, first, probably leaking seal, second, ruined bearing, third, broken crankcase.
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Re: Dunlop D250 180/60R 16 fitted

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Apologies for the confusion; my Metzler M3 Sportec is indeed 130/70/16, and *not* 60 profile as I wrongly stated. The rear is the D250 180/60/16 same as CBs.

Having now worn the brake pads and new discs in, I have been experimenting with various braking maneuvers and can report that I have managed to lock the rear wheel a few times either with heavy rear wheel braking or downshifting and missing a cog (4th to 2nd).

When using *just* the rear brake I have been very impressed with how hard I can brake, and have not been able to lock it up. Combined with heavy front braking though, I have grabbed the rear a few times when decelerating *hard*. It hasn't done anything "weird" at all. The tyre doesn't seem to give much warning that it will lock up (But probably my senses need more fine tuning in this regard) but it doesn't step-out or behave badly when it does lock. And it doesn't seem to have any problem at all finding grip again when I let some brakes off.

The front tyre seems very good indeed, although as an old-fart who is well aware of how much it hurts to hit the planet going quickly I have not pushed the front end terribly hard. Peter - one of the other board members here rode it and reckons it is understeering at low speeds - but I cannot detect this in my own riding.

CB, I'll rip the fairing off and photograph the front and rear sprocket locations and setups for you when I get home tonight, so you can compare them. The chain has now stopped removing rubber from the edge of the tyre, as I have cleaned the rims, and there is no new rubber accumulating on them.
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Mobius wrote:CB, I'll rip the fairing off and photograph the front and rear sprocket locations and setups for you when I get home tonight, so you can compare them. The chain has now stopped removing rubber from the edge of the tyre, as I have cleaned the rims, and there is no new rubber accumulating on them.
Thanks Mobius.

There has been a lot of concern over using a sport front tyre and a cruiser rear. Today I was looking at the tyres on a restored Honda CB750/4 that we had at work. They were new Metzeler Lasertecs. The restorer assured me they were supplied as a pair. The front was a 3.25-19 (crossply), the rear a 120/90-18 (radial). This combination is apparently recommended for this bike.
It seems there is no rule for all applications - you just have to ride it according to how it feels.

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Re: Dunlop D250 180/60R 16 fitted

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Here we go:

The back tyre is about 2cm off the ground on the centre stand. Ex-center is at about 5 o'clock on the chain side.
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The front sprocket location.
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Looking through the frame at the chain guide.
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The rear sprocket and it's location.
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Thanks for the photos. We now know your front sprocket is fitted correctly for standard - with the offset in. Please tell us where Duane showed you the chain would wear a hole if you offset it out 10mm.

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Re: Dunlop D250 180/60R 16 fitted

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Hi CB. My own rather amateur inspection actually contradicts what he told me, and it *does* look like it could be shifted over by around 10mm without touching the frame. It's the first time I have seen that area of the bike with the fairings and cover off, so I am a bit mystified as to why he would say that shifting it over by 10mm would "eat the frame". No explanation sorry! It seems I should have inspected it myself before passing along his opinion, as it has caused you to spend some time mucking around that you shouldn't have had to - so for that I apologise!

Now to fix my gear-shifting issues...
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Mobius wrote:Hi CB. My own rather amateur inspection actually contradicts what he told me, and it *does* look like it could be shifted over by around 10mm without touching the frame. It's the first time I have seen that area of the bike with the fairings and cover off, so I am a bit mystified as to why he would say that shifting it over by 10mm would "eat the frame". No explanation sorry! It seems I should have inspected it myself before passing along his opinion, as it has caused you to spend some time mucking around that you shouldn't have had to - so for that I apologise!
Thanks Mobius, apology accepted. The whole point of me contributing here was to provide a resource of fact. Speculation by those without actual experience is of no use and shouldn't deter those contemplating this modification.

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Today we rode the 906 two-up for the first time. In fact I hadn't been on a bike for a couple of weeks because I fell over and popped a couple of ribs out. No, I wasn't drunk! We rode with friends to a country pub about 60kms away. A good country road with plenty of fast bends and a few slow tight ones too. We had 35psi front & rear and the Paso handled beautifully. Very sure footed and giving me plenty of confidence to lean it over and crank it on through sweeping turns.

Here's a photo of me outside the pub. Multiple bike ownership prevents the purchase of a razor :lol:

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Francesco, Jenny asked me to take this photo for you :shock:

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What is it about Italian men? :mad:

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Colonial Boy wrote:
Francesco, Jenny asked me to take this photo for you :shock:

What is it about Italian men? :mad:
Perhaps, you told her I have got 2 Pasos :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: ????????

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Frankie, You DIDNT told us what ALL You had in Your mind!!!(I know You...) :mrgreen: Pretty combination, Jenny and nice 906 Paso :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Frankie, you're married!

Ladies are not expressly designed to be appriciated by married men!

(By the way, I'm single...) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Frankie is married with wife and 2 x 907IE's and seems, that Jenny is maried with CB, so also You, Nicola can forget all what You guys have in Your mind! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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My only love has two wheels and a yellow painting...
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U say so NOW, but one day come pretty blond to Your eyes and then "all is over" ....with Your Yellow Paso! ... :mrgreen:
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